Ok, this post is biased. I am not going to fluff that fact at all… I helped create Church Chair Finder.

So, “disclaimer” aside, I want to share with you why I am absolutely and honestly convinced that Church Chair Finder is the place that all churches should go when considering new church chairs. Let me start by listing three simple reasons:

  1. Easy to Use
  2. Lowest Prices
  3. Great Customer Service

Can buying church chairs be easy?
Well, making a big-ticket purchase is never easy… And buying new chairs for your worship service are no exception. There are many factors to consider from color and style to quality and price. However, Church Chair Finder reduces this process to a simple online form which helps you take wise first-steps towards your chair purchase. After you complete the form a church chair professional contacts you and holds-your-hand through the rest of the process. After 5 minutes on the phone you will be a church chair expert and ready to make an informed decision.

How can you be SURE to get the best price on church chairs?
By working with a company who not only guarantees it – they make it their mission and they encourage price comparison. Church Chair Finder is a service of Save Your Church Money; a ministry created by a pastor to help churches save money on the “stuff” they need. And when you use Church Chair Finder you can receive quotes from multiple chair suppliers with one easy click.

However, their main supplier (Church Furniture Partner) will always offer the lowest price. Again, they guarantee it. It is important to note that they offer the lowest price off-the-bat and do not try and make you haggle for a good price or try to only give you the best deal if you can find someone to “price match”.

Sometimes you may find what looks like a better price elsewhere but READ THEIR FINE PRINT and GET A SAMPLE CHAIR. It can be easy to get seduced into a chair that looks as good (on the web) and seems better priced — only to find out the chair is of poor quality and not built to last.

Why is customer service important when buying church chairs?
When ordering a large quantity (50+) of anything and dealing with freight shipping there can be some need for good communication and there can be some times when follow-up is needed after the order. If you have a damaged chair or chairs, have a freight delivery issue, have a fabric issue, etc you are going to want a company that focuses on customer service. Church Chair Finder is all about CHURCHES and honoring the church through fair pricing and excellent service. I cannot say enough about their care. When you call them you will get right through to someone who CARES.

Anyway, I hope I have made a strong case for what I truly believe… Church Chair Finder from Save Your Church Money is the absolute safest, smartest, most affordable, and easiest way to buy your new church chairs.

Check them out at ChurchChairFinder.Com!

Be careful what church chairs you buy!  A recent event prompted me to update this otherwise abandoned blog.  After all, our chairs were purchased and, as I mentioned, I even took part in building a website (Church Chair Finder) to make purchasing church chairs easier than it was when I faced the nightmare head-on.

Let me start with our chairs…
As would be expected our church chairs (Comfortek 7701) are holding up just fine with no noticeable wear on the fabric and absolutely no bend, movement in the frames.  The chairs are mainly used for two services on Sunday for about 3 hours sitting time and on Wednesday nights for about 1 hour of sitting time.  So, in all, I figure that the chairs have seen roughly 560 hours of “butt time” and about 1248 “exchanges”.  By exchanges I mean people getting up and sitting down on the chairs; so if my formula and math is correct — those are the rough numbers.  We did have some very slight chipping of the paint on a couple of the frames.   This is not even noticeable except with close inspection and these are chairs that are moved in and out of isles to add extra seating when needed.  So, we are still very content with our church chair purchase.

But lets talk about The River church…
A little less than a mile from us is another wonderful church who purchased chairs just a few weeks earlier than we did.  We had actually considered the same chair they had as it was a bit less expensive.  We would save about $3 per chair, and while $3 doesn’t sound like much $3×120 = $360 so it was a worthwhile savings.  We ended up passing on those particular church chairs because the salesman we had talked to suggested that they might not be the best quality and that quality should be considered along with price….  THANK YOU!

This past weekend our services were cancelled due to bad weather (the 3rd time this crazy winter!) so my wife and I had the chance to visit The River as they have some services later in the day, after the roads had cleared a bit.  I got a chance to see the chairs “down by The River” and my heart sunk for their church.  Now, I cannot say for sure how much (more) those chairs have been used/abused than out chairs but they were in tough shape.

On my chair, the one I sat it, the frame gave a very slight but still noticeable side-to-side sway.  My chairs was still connected by a piece of plastic to the other chairs in the row so I wondered if they swayed when I swayed but my wife said she didn’t notice any.  Speaking of the plastic connectors which connect the chairs together, just a quick look down our row and it was obvious that some of the pieces had broken and the chairs were actually NOT connected.  This is not good as it represent a possible danger in the event of a fire and makes it hard to have clean, straight rows.

The worst part however was the fabric and comfort of the chairs.  Some of the fabric on a few (guesstimate around 12 – 15 of what looked to be around 200 chairs) was bunching up.  I am not sure how else to describe it; it was “bunched”.  The chair itself was also very uncomfortable, something we did not notice when checking out the sample chair so my educated-guess is that the chair’s foam or whatever is inside the fabric had degraded or weakened over time.  It did feel much like we were sitting on wood.

All-in-all I feel badly for this church.  We know around what they must have paid because we looked at the same chair around the same time and I can say definitively it was not worth the savings.  These chairs look like they are ready to be replaced NOW.  The fabric was also clearly faded in spots but this could have to do with sunlight getting into the worship center…  Any which way you cut it, I decided it was time to write a blog post here.

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE beware of cheap church chairs.  The old adage remains “if it sounds too good to be true…”.  If a dealer is offering you a church chair that just seems to be a great deal less expensive than other church chairs — there is a reason!

I haven’t blogged here in a while and for good reason.  Instead of simply complaining about what a nightmare it was to buy church chairs – I DID SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

Meet Church Chair Finder!

I worked with an awesome company called Save Your Church Money and, with my church chair frustration in mind, helped to develop a new website that should end the church chair buying nightmare forever!  Can you tell I’m a bit excited!?

I went from being a pastor who was frustrated with the church chair industry and how it treated churches to a pastor who helps churches by making buying church chairs risk-free and easy!!

Church Chair Finder is my baby – and, no, I do NOT make money on the chairs sold there.  What is Church Chair Finder?  It is a completely new way to find and buy chairs.  There are a couple of cool features that make it unique…

#1 – A Dedicated Church Chair Search
When you search for chairs using the Church Chair Finder Search you will not get a bunch of store listings telling you to come check out their chairs.  You will get relevant results for the chairs you’re searching for…  Try it!  You can enter a chair color and get those results or a chair brand and compare, etc…

#2 – Have Church Chair Suppliers Compete for Your Business
This is the milk-and-honey!  Instead of searching the internet and talking to different church chair suppliers (and giving them your contact information) you can simply visit one website, submit one form and viola!!  You will receive print-ready quotes from several verified church chair suppliers.  This makes it easy to compare apples-to-apples the different chairs and suppliers and to bring several quotes before you church decision-makers.  You will send hours and hours less time (no more church chair nightmares!) finding the right chairs at the right price.  The suppliers will compete over you – they will all give you their BEST, LOWEST PRICE QUOTE in order to win your business.  Best of all it is risk-free…  When you submit a request for quotes NONE of your personal information is released to the suppliers.  They will not call you, email you, put you on any lists…  They use the Church Chair Finder quote system to send a quote directly to your inbox and that is it — it is up to YOU to take the next step if you choose to work with one of the suppliers.  Please, TRY IT OUT, it is free!

The last thing I want to note is that Church Chair Finder, in partnership with Save Your Church Money (SYCM), is currently offering FREE church chairs.  For details read the article on the SYCM website.

Thanks and God Bless!

So as you read in my last post it really seemed like used church chairs were not going to be the answer to our worship seating needs.  So I got my little brain stuck on the Hercules Worship Seating (link to Google search) since it seemed so much less expensive than the other church chairs I was seeing offered.

I went through the process, compared prices and found that little (ugly) site I mentioned earlier to have the lowest price on Hercules chairs.  So I thought “YES!  I am finally done!”.  But…

“I want to let you know that these hercules chairs are cheap, don’t last too long, and have some assembly required.”

Ugh…

The guy on the phone then started talking about another church chair which he strongly recommended.  This Comfortek brand chair was, of course – you guessed it, more expensive than the Hercules chair I had wanted.  As I half listened to the nice man on the phone talk I wondered if I was just trying to be “upsold” by a salesman looking to make an extra few bucks…  After a thank you, I hung up the phone and went back to the web to do some MORE research.  Three things stuck out to me about this guy’s speil.

  1. Hercules chairs are cheap and require assembly.
  2. The type of foam can be important.
  3. Chairs need to meet fire safety requirements and Hercules chairs might not.

AHHHHHH!  Ok, still have to vent some frustration.

So I checked into it and it was easy to find that #1 was true – the worship chairs from Hercules did require some assembly.  The backs of the chairs need to be screwed into the frame.  I immediately thought of the furniture I had assembled over the years and no matter how much “easy assembly” was promoted I could not imagine me or even our whole church spending the day assembling over 100 chairs!!

YES, YOU GUESSED IT…  MY CHURCH CHAIR NIGHTMARE CONTINUED…

After feeling that the company I was looking at for church chairs (churchchairs4less.com) felt like a used car salesman.  The thought crossed my mind — ‘you know what, buying used might be a good idea’.  So I went back to my trusty tool (Google) and started the hunt for used church chairs.

When searching for used church chairs it seemed eBay was the place to go…  So I went there and I found something quite frustrating…  IT SEEMED THE SAME SELLERS WERE ON EBAY SELLING CHURCH CHAIRS!

I mean I literally saw the exact same offerings on eBay as I had found elsewhere on the web.  New church chairs, NOT used one.  The same “Hercules worship chair” that was being offered everywhere and at the same price.  I did however find some used church chairs as well…  And some of the prices seemed very tempting.

The bid was $15 for 60 USED CHURCH CHAIRS

Wow!!  However, when reading the auction carefully I saw the words “the bid price is for one chair but you must buy all 60″.  So the bid I saw wasn’t for 60 chairs, it was $15 for one chair – at least $900 for all sixty.  Add that to the fact that the condition on the chairs was “some wear and tear” and I gave a second thought.  I decided to go back to Google and continue looking for used church chairs.  I came across the following article (it is a link) titled The Dangers of Buying Used Church Chairs.  There were a bunch of factors I hadn’t thought of about buying used.  UGH!

How can the simple task of buying chairs for my church be so difficult!!??

I also noticed a link to a company called Church Furniture Partner from the article…  So, I clicked on it and was taken to their website.  I wasn’t to impressed with the page, it was a list of manufacturers with the notion “contact us and we will sell you some church chairs”.  So, back to Google I went…  AGAIN!!!

MY CHURCH CHAIR NIGHTMARE – TO BE CONTINUED!!

As you might expect our church’s primary interest was in SAVING MONEY when buying new church chairs.  So when I did a quick Google search for “church chairs” I was excited to find an advertisement for a $25.99 church chair.  I was thinking I was half way done!  $26 per worship chair would be below our budget and we could use the savings to support other ministries within our church.  So I clicked on the ad…  But what did I find!?!?

THERE WERE NO $25.99 CHURCH CHAIRS!!

What the Nebuchadnezzar??!  I didn’t know if the ad was outdated or the price was wrong so I gave the people at Church Chairs 4 Less a call.  Only when I called it wasn’t ChurchChairs4Less.com who answered…  It was some voicemail that asked me WHICH COMPANY I was calling about!!?  It seems that this “church chair” company was not really a church chair company but rather a “any chair we can sell you” company who had different websites based on niche.  UGH!  I was already starting to get frustrated!

When I got someone on the phone I was told that the $25.99 price could be given on an order of 600 chairs or more and there was only ONE style I could get for this price.  WHAT A SHAM!  Sorry for the language, but I was instantly frustrated — my high of finding an below-budget church chair was quickly deflated.

After some other discussion (which annoyed me) I went back to their site and saw a bunch of listings for the Hercules chair at $28.99 — this was $3 per chair more than I had thought but it was still under budget.  Some more Google searching and this still appeared to be the best option.

So I look through some of the colors and find one that looks close to our decor and click it so I can order one for  a sample.  When I go to order I learn that the $28.99 price is AGAIN for a higher quantity than we need so we would in fact be paying $29.99 per chair…  I have quickly lost confidence and decide to keep looking for a company that doesn’t feel so “icky”…  I don’t want to buy chairs for our church from a group of used car salesmen!  Ok, sorry for the expression, there are actually some very nice and honest used car salesmen at our church — but you get the point!

So…  My CHURCH CHAIR NIGHTMARE continued…

If you have somehow stumbled upon this blog, the first question you may be asking yourself is “why does someone feel the need to blog about church chairs!?”

This is a good question — but if you have ever had to go through the process of selecting and purchasing chairs for your church — you might already know the answer!

Buying church chairs is:

  • CONFUSING
  • OVERWHELMING
  • EXPENSIVE
  • FRUSTRATING
  • FAITH SHAKING

If you are like me, when you started to look into buying church chairs (by “church chairs” I mean worship seating — chairs for your sanctuary) you realized it wasn’t as simple as finding a chair that matched the decor of your church and dropping them into your shopping cart.  NOPE!

When buying church chairs there are a BUNCH of things to consider that I had never considered.  Sure, I figured there would be some shopping around for the best price — but I had no idea I would need a PHD in frame styles, types of foam, fire codes, back styles, fabrics, pre-assembled vs. self-assembled, freight options…  My head quickly started spinning!

I knew I wanted cheap but it was made unclear if I was looking at quality with a cheap price or if I was looking at cheap junk.

Anyhow, this blog may be of interest to nobody but at least for me it will help me VENT through sharing my experience — “MY CHURCH CHAIR NIGHTMARE“!  So that is what I will do here…  Share my experience and hopefully help someone avoid the headaches I went through or, if not, then at least just have a place to vent about what a pain it was/is to buy new chairs for a church!